TEMP CHECK: Cancel Current Grant & Replace with Reduced Grant

@Loring - As I mentioned on the call, in a year’s time we might have much more information and it might make sense to scale the operation differently than today.

Personally, I’d like to support option 3, as it maintains both the encrypted mempool work (our “moonshot”) while pursuing immediate revenue opportunities through the Shutter API. That said, I’d prefer to formalize that we’ll revisit the rate in 12 months to reassess. Hopefully, we could plan to do it 60 days in advance to ensure minimal disruption to any team members that would be impacted by the change.

This would give us time to evaluate the key success metrics you’ve outlined:

  • Number of major chains with encrypted mempools & major dApp with a Shutter API integration
  • Number of encrypted transactions

Would it make sense to confirm we’ll revisit these amounts in a year, with a formal review process starting 60 days before the renewal date?

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Hi @5pence -

Thanks for your comments and suggestion.

This makes a lot of sense. brainbot supports this approach.

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Without specific metrics, it is not different to not have any success metrics.

DAO members would not be able to know what consequence of each option is. These are not metrics for a grant like this should lacking. It is basically promising/specifying nothing but switch the responsibility to the DAO. This is not a responsible response, nor a good grant proposal should lack these details

Update

Voting on the TEMP CHECK concluded yesterday. The results:

Option 3 was selected with 19.8M votes - or 45.67% of votes cast.

See for details: https://snapshot.box/#/s:shutterdao0x36.eth/proposal/0xf1a713d379c48d05efba1e97ce689e874af8ae8896235798e5cc6c8ab27505a0

Feedback

brainbot will continue to discuss this proposal and make changes accordingly.

If you have comments, suggestions or questions, please post them here.

@han - Earlier, you asked about specific targets for each metric. I will reply shortly.

Increased or reduced?

There is an important ambiguity here that could potentially lead to a misleading title for this temp check and needs to be clarified.

Each option ranges from $3,411,000 up to $3,687,000. If that is intentional, it does not represent a reduced stream (which currently has only $1 million left to go) but rather a significant increase in the total cost. If it is, indeed, intended to extend and increase the grant, the title should reflect that.

On a related note, the streaming schedules provided only detail the first 11 months (April 2025 to February 2026), while the runways extend to 40, 36, and 30 months for Options 1, 2, and 3, respectively. It is assumed that the stabilized monthly amounts ($81,000 for Option 1, $93,000 for Option 2, and $120,000 for Option 3) continue unchanged beyond February 2026 until the end of each runway. However, this is not explicitly confirmed in the data. Maybe this cause the ambiguity of the title?

Given the changing nature of this industry, setting a stream payment until 2027 is too early, and the consensus is to reduce the cost, not to extend it. If Brainbox wants to expand it, please state this clearly in the title.

A reduced grant for the remaining timeline, with reassessment once a year or every two years, is more aligned with the consensus to reduce costs and the uncertain nature of each product’s market fit path.

Inclusion of Fixed Costs?

All options include fixed costs (e.g., tech infrastructure, overhead), and the streaming schedules are presumed to incorporate these. However, the temp check notes Shutter DAO 0x36 limits other expenses to $25,500 per month, which may or may not be fully reflected in the provided amounts, adding minor uncertainty.

FTE Ramp-Down Timing

Option 1 indicates a ramp-down to 4.5 FTEs “from July 2025 onwards,” but the streaming schedule shows $97,000 in July and $81,000 from August, suggesting the full reduction may occur post-July. Option 2 similarly ramps down to 5 FTEs from July 2025, with costs dropping to $93,000 in August. Option 3’s ramp-down to 7.5 FTEs is from August 2025, aligning with the cost drop to $120,000. The exact correlation between FTE reductions and cost changes is unclear, though the schedules are assumed to reflect these adjustments.

Allocated all or more 89% fund to brainbot?

If above are correct, this temp check would allocate almost all fund or more 85% in the treasury to brainbot in one proposal? (1 million in the current stream + 2.5 liquidity million) in the Decent. Do you think this is too concreted and how do you plan to make sure this is sustainable? How could Shutter 0x36 DAO allocate resource for other activities?

Would you care to comment?

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Hi @han -

Thanks for your questions. I’ve shared answers below.

Please let me know if you have further questions or if you would like additional info.

Reduced Grant Schedule

As mentioned above:

brainbot’s current plan (pending further discussion with Shutter DAO 0x36) is to submit a proposal to cancel the current grant and replace it with a reduced 6-month grant, as follows:

Month Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sept Total (over 6 months)
Amount 152 140 140 135 120 120 807

Fixed Costs

Yes, brainbot’s fixed costs are included in the reduced 6-month grant.

Other Expenses

“Fixed costs” are incurred by brainbot. “Other expenses” are incurred by Shutter DAO 0x36.

In order to project a Shutter DAO 0x36 runway, brainbot had to make assumptions about “other expenses” in the future. We assume Shutter DAO 0x36 will have “other expenses” of $25.5K per month - because this has been the average other expenses over the past 7 months. Of course, Shutter DAO 0x36 may choose to incur more or fewer ad hoc expenses, and thus reduce or extend the runway.

Ramp-Down from July to August

As mentioned above:

This explains the reduction in the grant from July to August.

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Update

As mentioned above, brainbot will submit a proposal to cancel the current grant and replace it with a reduced 6-month grant, as follows:

Month Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sept Total (over 6 months)
Amount 152 140 140 135 120 120 807

However, the Decent Sablier stream transaction does not support multiple transactions in the same proposal. As a result, brainbot will first propose the creation of the reduced 6-month grant and (after the first proposal has passed) brainbot will then propose the cancelation of the current grant.

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What amount is that? I don’t see any detail of this line item above. And do you mind providing detail on why would brainbot have to pay the end the contract instead of letting it run its course?

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Hi @han -

The current contract with Luna PR runs through July 2025.

The reduced grant set out above lets that contract expire at the soonest possible date. There is no fee for ending the contract.

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I put this proposal to a vote on Decent:

The Decent team confirmed that the transaction has been built correctly, and will create a stream as follows:

Streamed Token Address: 0xA0b86991c6218b36c1d19D4a2e9Eb0cE3606eB48

Recipient Address: 0xb75e2fb01521bd7b6369f831414840a54a3c7234

Stream Total Amount: 807000

Tranche 1:

  • Tranche Amount: 152000
  • Tranche Duration: 1

Tranche 2:

  • Tranche Amount: 140000
  • Tranche Duration: 2592000

Tranche 3:

  • Tranche Amount: 140000
  • Tranche Duration: 2592000

Tranche 4:

  • Tranche Amount: 135000
  • Tranche Duration: 2592000

Tranche 5:

  • Tranche Amount: 120000
  • Tranche Duration: 2592000

Tranche 6:

  • Tranche Amount: 120000
  • Tranche Duration: 2592000
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Update

Proposal 64 Passed.

Sablier stream 1364 has been created: Vesting Stream #LT3-1-1364 | Sablier

Proposal 65 has been put to a vote: Decent

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Update

Proposal 65 passed and has been executed.

Sablier stream 429 has been canceled: Vesting Stream #LT3-1-429 | Sablier

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