# Provide a grant to brainbot gmbh for November 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** SD 0x36 Proposals\ **Created:** [November 10, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769 "2025-11-10T09:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Loring-Brainbot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/shutternetwork.discourse.group/loring-brainbot/32/535_2.png) [@Loring-Brainbot](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/Loring-Brainbot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/1 "2025-11-10T09:07:51Z")
| Proposal Title | Author(s) | Phase | Date Created | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Provide a grant to brainbot gmbh for November 2025 | brainbot gmbh | On-chain | 10 November 2024 | ## Proposal Provide a one time grant of 122,222 sDAI to brainbot gmbh for November 2025. ## Background Earlier this year, Shutter DAO 0x36 approved [a monthly recurring grant to brainbot gmbh](https://app.decentdao.org/proposals/64?dao=eth:0x36bD3044ab68f600f6d3e081056F34f2a58432c4) from April to September 2025 and [a one time grant to brainbot gmbh](https://app.decentdao.org/proposals/75?dao=eth:0x36bD3044ab68f600f6d3e081056F34f2a58432c4) for October 2025. brainbot gmbh has provided monthly updates regarding our work funded by these grants in [the Shutter DAO 0x36 section of the Shutter Forum](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/c/shutter-dao/14). brainbot gmbh proposes another one time grant to continue our work regarding the Shutter protocol, Shutter API, Keyper set, business partnerships, and marcoms activities. ## Scope brainbot gmbh will use the grant to continue our work on the Shutter T3 Priorities: - Technology: Stable encrypted mempools on Gnosis Chain, POC with Primev or Commit-Boost of encrypted mempools on Ethereum L1, Draft an EIP regarding encrypted mempools on Ethereum L1, Integrate Shutter API into dApps. - Business: Stabilize the Keyper Sets, Collect feedback on the EIP ref encrypted mempools on Ethereum L1; Identify future integrations of Shutter API into dApps. - MarComs: Refactor communities, Build support for encrypted mempools on Ethereum L1, Experiment with SHU marketing. ## Disbursement Method and Schedule Shutter DAO 0x36 will disburse 122,222 sDAI (0x83F20F44975D03b1b09e64809B757c47f942BEeA) to the brainbot gmbh address (0xb75E2fB01521Bd7b6369F831414840A54a3C7234) on Ethereum Mainnet upon approval of this proposal. ## Platform Decent (this proposal will trigger an onchain transaction if passed) ## Voting Options Vote “Yes” to provide a grant to brainbot gmbh OR Vote “No” to not provide a grant OR Vote “Abstain” if you do not have an opinion but want to help the vote reach quorum ---
**Author:** ![czepluch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@czepluch](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/czepluch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/2 "2025-11-11T15:42:27Z")
If I am not mistaken sDai to USDC is 1.18, which means that the amount you’re asking for is higher than $143,000 from last month—roughly 152k for November against 143k from October. I don’t see a justification for the increased amount in the post here. Could you explain the increased rate? ---
**Author:** ![Loring-Brainbot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/shutternetwork.discourse.group/loring-brainbot/32/535_2.png) [@Loring-Brainbot](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/Loring-Brainbot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/3 "2025-11-11T16:30:34Z")
Hi @czepluch - The grant request is for $143,000. At the time of posting this proposal, the price of sDAI on [CoinMarketCap](https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/savings-dai/) was $1.10. So I requested 130,000 sDAI. If the price changes before Nov 17 (or if you have better price info, I will update the onchain proposal to ensure the proposed amount of sDAI is equal to $143,000. ---
**Author:** ![czepluch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@czepluch](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/czepluch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/4 "2025-11-11T16:55:59Z")
CoinMarketCap seems to be reporting the price in a very weird way for sDai. It makes no sense. If you look at [https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/savings-dai](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/savings-dai) it looks more like how an actual savings dai is supposed to work and it’s actually at a stable price. ---
**Author:** ![czepluch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@czepluch](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/czepluch)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/5 "2025-11-11T17:07:26Z")
Either way, I’m a little late to the party, but the 143k is still more than the 120k that the 6-month grant was paying out in the end. And that grant was based on 12 FTEs, I believe. Your monthly update now states 7.25 FTEs. I’m trying to understand the numbers and how the amount of money is increasing while the number of FTEs is decreasing. ---
**Author:** ![Loring-Brainbot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/shutternetwork.discourse.group/loring-brainbot/32/535_2.png) [@Loring-Brainbot](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/Loring-Brainbot)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/6 "2025-11-11T17:27:02Z")
When brainbot accepted a reduced recurring grant, we were forced to reduce team size to reduce costs: - Jan 2025: 12 FTEs - May 2025: 9.55 FTEs - Oct 2025: 7.25 Prior to applying for a grant for Oct 2025, we reviewed brainbot income/costs and found the reduced recurring grant of $120,000 per month was not covering our costs. As a result, we increased the monthly grant amount to $143,000 in Oct and Nov 2025. ---
**Author:** ![czepluch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@czepluch](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/czepluch)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/7 "2025-11-12T12:10:07Z")
Okay, I don’t know the internals and budgeting so I can’t comment on the spending of BB. But I still would encourage you to reconsider the amount of sDai for the grant as everywhere I’ve looked, except of coinmarketcap shows quite different price. ---
**Author:** ![Loring-Brainbot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/shutternetwork.discourse.group/loring-brainbot/32/535_2.png) [@Loring-Brainbot](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/u/Loring-Brainbot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://shutternetwork.discourse.group/t/provide-a-grant-to-brainbot-gmbh-for-november-2025/769/8 "2025-11-12T14:04:38Z")
> [@czepluch](#): > > I still would encourage you to reconsider the amount of sDai for the grant as everywhere I’ve looked, except of coinmarketcap shows quite different price. Agreed. I updated the grant proposal to 122,222 sDAI. This is $143,000 at a rate of $1.17 per sDAI (the current price at [https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/savings-dai](https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/savings-dai).